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Title: anyone else see this
Post by: Corey Carpenter on 01/22/10, 03:49 PM
I heard that NASCAR is telling the drivers to be more aggresive....
it seems that the complaining by the fans and by the drivers made NASCAR step up to the plate and change something
Is this a good or bad change?... does this mean we are going to see more big wrecks than before.... is brad keselowski going to go out of control.... ok that one was just a joke 8)
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Nick1120 on 01/22/10, 03:52 PM
havent the drivers been telling NASCAR for years to let them be more aggressive and really race these cars.
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Corey Carpenter on 01/22/10, 03:59 PM
yea,  but this time NASCAR is telling the drivers...
ought to be a good year if NASCAR allows the aggressive racing
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Keith Joseph on 01/22/10, 04:26 PM
I heard the same thing on the radio last night, I almost drove off the road.
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Rick Eve on 01/22/10, 04:31 PM
I also read that the COT wing is going to be phased into a spoiler later in the year.
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Nick1120 on 01/22/10, 05:08 PM
I also read that the COT wing is going to be phased into a spoiler later in the year.

really? i had no idea... theres only about 316 threads about that, lol  :D ;D :D
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Daryl Wheatley on 01/22/10, 05:11 PM
 From NASCAR.COM
Some of the Upcoming changes


NASCAR putting emphasis on back-to-basics racing
New rules changes designed aimed at sport's history
By Official Release
January 21, 2010
07:04 PM EST
    
type size: + -NASCAR has announced that it will relax some on-track rules, putting racing back in the drivers' hands in 2010.

The changes, which begin with next month's season-opening events at Daytona International Speedway, will allow drivers to be even more competitive.

Race rule changes were one of several announcements during Thursday's annual Media Tour presentation at NASCAR's Research and Development Center in Concord, N.C.

NASCAR chairman and CEO Brian France said the loosening of on-track reins is another step in enhancing competition and back-to-basics racing.

"Over the past 10 years we've dramatically increased safety and that mission continues. However, it's time for us to allow the drivers to drive. We don't want the rules and regulations to get in the way of great racing and fantastic finishes," France said.

"NASCAR is a contact sport -- our history is based on banging fenders."

Among the changes:

• Bump-drafting rules will be eliminated at Daytona and Talladega Superspeedway. Teams also will use a bigger restrictor plate at Daytona.

Eliminating bump-drafting rules puts responsibility for on-track moves squarely back in drivers' hands. Larger restrictor plates give drivers more horsepower.

• The wing mounted on the rear on the Sprint Cup Series' new car will be replaced with a spoiler. A full-field test is scheduled for March 23-24 at Charlotte Motor Speedway. Following that, a decision on when to implement the spoiler will be made based on teams' input. The switch from wing to spoiler will return to a more traditional stock-car look.

"Over the last couple of years, there have been dozens of changes to this car, with this being the most visible change," said Robin Pemberton, NASCAR's vice president of competition.

• Cup Series director John Darby has been promoted to managing director of competition, with oversight of all three national series' directors, officials, inspection processes and race officiating. He will continue in his series director's role until his successor is found.

"Probably no one is more qualified for this new job than John," Pemberton said. "He knows and understands the officiating and inspection processes better than anyone and is the perfect fit."

Other changes announced Thursday:

• Mike Fisher, managing director of NASCAR's R&D Center, has some additions to his team. They include Brett Bodine as the director of racing, Tom Gideon as director of safety and Jamie DiPietro as manager of safety inspections.

• Beginning with the Feb. 13 season opener at Daytona, Nationwide Series teams will be limited to 15 crew members, including the driver, crew chief, spotter and seven over-the-wall pit-crew members. Teams also won't be required to provide a scorer. Last year teams had no limit on at-track crew members.

• Nationwide Series teams may run no more than two races in 2010 without using an engine sealed by series officials. Last year they could run three races before using a sealed engine.

• Camping World Truck Series teams will use double-file restarts "shootout style" in 2010, making restart rules uniform across all three national series. Teams also will return to traditional pit stops, eliminating last year's procedure of refueling and changing tires on separate stops. Teams also may use a new, vented fuel dump can, eliminating the need for a catch can.
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Corey Carpenter on 01/22/10, 05:12 PM
really? i had no idea... theres only about 316 threads about that, lol  :D ;D :D

lol :D
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: markmartin5 on 01/22/10, 05:57 PM
is brad keselowski going to go out of control.... ok that one was just a joke 8)
No, everyone else is gonna go outta control wrecking him! ;D
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Corey Carpenter on 01/22/10, 06:04 PM
lol revenge..
i cant wait till 500
i think its gonna be best one in a while
lets see a repeat of 07.... cept jr wins... passing kyle busch..
i would laugh so hard that i might cry at kyle's post race interview
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: nascarfreak88 on 01/22/10, 07:10 PM
I'm actually looking forward to this year.

Drivers are actually allowed to be more agressive
No yellow line rule
Larger restrictor plates
Seems more drivers have the chance to win: I feel Jr. and FRM may win at least one each.
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Malachi69 on 01/22/10, 07:19 PM
yeah i know i agree nascarfreak88!
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: JimFoose on 01/22/10, 07:42 PM
The yellow line rule remains, that was announced as part of the NASCAR Press Conference yesterday. 
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: markmartin5 on 01/22/10, 08:09 PM
The yellow line rule needed to stay.
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Corey Carpenter on 01/22/10, 08:11 PM
i agree... without the yellow line rule... the 500 coming up would be painful to watch... there would be so many wrecks in the turns... and would probably be a huge wreck... going headfirst into a wall at 180mph doesn't look fun
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: nascarfreak88 on 01/22/10, 08:38 PM
I stand corrected. I looked at the conference and saw they kept the yellow line rule. Good thing too.
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: JimFoose on 01/22/10, 11:02 PM
That is one rule change I totally agree with, the yellow line rule when put in place was a great idea and is still needed to this day. 

However, I want a Green-White-Checkered finish, even if the yellow flies on the last lap.  and Multiple GWC's if needed.  Like the trucks used to be.

I'd like to see the cup guys limited to 10 Nationwide starts a year, period.  And NO Cup guy (in the top 35 in cup points) can gain an automatic starting spot (top 30 in points), they have to go or go home, maybe only the top 5 make the race.  That will make Nationwide owners stand up and hire some non-cup guys. The lone exception would be driving for independent Nationwide teams such as KHI, Baker-Curb, Braun and Rusty Wallace Racing.   Even better, drop the lock in rule in each series and offer "provisionals", maybe 5 in cup, 5 in Nationwide and 3 in trucks.

Separate the Nationwide Series from Cup more.  No more than 50% of those Nationwide races should be companion events with cup.  Take the Nationwide cars to Irwindale, Mansfield, Pikes Peak, Memphis, Milwaukee, etc...  Get them away from Cup as much as possible. 

All tracks wanting to host a national series event should be required to install lights.  There have been multiple events canceled because they dont have lights.  It's amazing that these multi million dollar facilities (see Kansas) didn't plan for lights (remember Chicagoland had to add the infrastructure to have lights for the 2008 event).  Maybe exclude Indianpolis and the road courses from this for now, but Dover, Kansas, Talladega, Martinsville, Pocono and Michigan need to step up to the 21st century.  A night race at Dover and Martinsville would be cool. 

How about a prime time race on a Sunday that starts at 6PM and should be over by 10PM?? 

Richmond and Charlotte need to have a day and night race each, not two night races a piece. 

Lastly, dump the 2nd California race for a night race in Las Vegas.  One of the neatest tracks on the tour in one of the coolest cities. 
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Corey Carpenter on 01/22/10, 11:04 PM
nice thinkin jim...
maybe you should be the head of nascar :)
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: JimFoose on 01/22/10, 11:36 PM
As soon as they get rid of the "golden boy" (Brian France) maybe.  Although I must say other than the outragous number of uhhhh's and ummmm's he did a fairly good job yesterday during that press conference.
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Corey Carpenter on 01/22/10, 11:48 PM
yea i agree with you on that one
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: MattW on 01/23/10, 12:24 AM
However, I want a Green-White-Checkered finish, even if the yellow flies on the last lap.  and Multiple GWC's if needed.  Like the trucks used to be.
Agreed.

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I'd like to see the cup guys limited to 10 Nationwide starts a year, period.  And NO Cup guy (in the top 35 in cup points) can gain an automatic starting spot (top 30 in points), they have to go or go home, maybe only the top 5 make the race.  That will make Nationwide owners stand up and hire some non-cup guys. The lone exception would be driving for independent Nationwide teams such as KHI, Baker-Curb, Braun and Rusty Wallace Racing.   Even better, drop the lock in rule in each series and offer "provisionals", maybe 5 in cup, 5 in Nationwide and 3 in trucks.
Agreed.

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Separate the Nationwide Series from Cup more.  No more than 50% of those Nationwide races should be companion events with cup.  Take the Nationwide cars to Irwindale, Mansfield, Pikes Peak, Memphis, Milwaukee, etc...  Get them away from Cup as much as possible.
Agreed, but Milwaukee doesn't have a race this year, and instead are going to a MUCH better track.

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All tracks wanting to host a national series event should be required to install lights.  There have been multiple events canceled because they dont have lights.  It's amazing that these multi million dollar facilities (see Kansas) didn't plan for lights (remember Chicagoland had to add the infrastructure to have lights for the 2008 event).  Maybe exclude Indianpolis and the road courses from this for now, but Dover, Kansas, Talladega, Martinsville, Pocono and Michigan need to step up to the 21st century.  A night race at Dover and Martinsville would be cool.
Ehhhh, debatable.

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How about a prime time race on a Sunday that starts at 6PM and should be over by 10PM??
No, no no no nonononoNO.
Most people have to go to work on Monday.  How would you like it if you had to be in work for 6am on a Monday morning, and didn't get home until 2-3AM that morning?

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Richmond and Charlotte need to have a day and night race each, not two night races a piece.
Agreed, but Richmond doesn't need a second race.  Bring it to a different short track that's deserving.

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Lastly, dump the 2nd California race for a night race in Las Vegas.  One of the neatest tracks on the tour in one of the coolest cities.  
Agreed, but drop the first Vegas race for somewhere else.

All in all I like what they've done, I still say we need more short tracks and road courses though. :D
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: JimFoose on 01/23/10, 11:04 AM
Agreed, but Milwaukee doesn't have a race this year, and instead are going to a MUCH

My point was to take away the races at the cup tracks and add these in their places.  Road America, Kentucky, Nashville, Gateway, Iowa and Montreal are all safe. 

The Sunday night Prime Time race could be a west coast race, so the people get out by 7PM (Pacific Time) but it runs in the Prime Time slot for the Eastern half of the country. 
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Bobby17 on 01/23/10, 03:46 PM
More short tracks would be great but most short tracks in the country don't seat enough people to make this a profitable choice, & let's face it NASCAR is a business & if it doesn't make money it will cease to exist. So unfortunately the short track won't be added they had to change the truck schedule years ago to save the series. (check Wikipedia) they list the schedules for the first few years amazing schedules but not profitable. More road course's would be better but a lot of drivers would complain.
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Corey Carpenter on 01/23/10, 04:32 PM
More road course's would be better but a lot of drivers would complain.
Marcos Ambrose wouldn't complain  :D
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Bobby17 on 01/23/10, 05:55 PM
That's true Marcus ran the V8 super cars which has no ovals on they're schedule, he won at least 2 championships in that series. There are other drivers that wouldn't complain like Jeff & Robby Gordon, Stewart, Montoya, as well as some others but a lot of guys would complain. They might get some more road racers come run races which would be cool.
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Malachi69 on 01/24/10, 12:18 PM
How about ALL races start at noon so they can be over by 5:00 and all night races starting at 6:00 that way the people who have to go to work on Monday's can get home in time!
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: JimFoose on 01/24/10, 01:54 PM
I like the 1:00 deal, gives people a chance to get home from Church.  And we know how religious the southeast is, so that is VERY important.  I'd venture to say 40-50% of the viewers of NASCAR are from the southeast.
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Malachi69 on 01/24/10, 01:59 PM
yeah they are!
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: Corey Carpenter on 01/24/10, 02:59 PM
I like the 1:00 deal, gives people a chance to get home from Church.  And we know how religious the southeast is, so that is VERY important.  I'd venture to say 40-50% of the viewers of NASCAR are from the southeast.
maybe even more...
but yea.. im from the southeast... and i have friends from up north and out west who are hardcore nascar fans :)
Title: Re: anyone else see this
Post by: markmartin5 on 01/24/10, 03:08 PM
I've seen license plates from about 40 different states and Canada here in Daytona just for fanfest! So I know there are fans from all over.